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    Default Doctors who think they're fitness experts.

    Get this you guys: I have a client who is REALLY struggling to lose weight. She went to the doctor to have some tests done (she has an underactive thyroid and the doctor wanted to make sure it was within normal limits). My client explained that she had been working with a trainer for a few months and was getting really strong but the weight was not coming off. Her doctor (a female of course) told her, "The reason you're not losing weight is because your trainer is adding too much muscle. You need to stop lifting so heavy. You should lift light weights and do many repetitions." (Never mind that my client is a FEMALE in her mid 40s and an undereater. Perfect criteria for adding muscle.)

    It seems that everyone is an "expert" when it comes to exercise. I have been told that doctors are some of the worst. Has anyone encountered anything similar?

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    Hey Christina!

    Long time. You mentioned that the client had an underactive thyroid and the doctor wanted to make sure it was within normal limits. Is the client's thyroid actually within normal limits? Signs of hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid) are usually:

    Weight gain Puffy face
    Loss or thinning of eyebrows
    Cold intolerance
    Low sex drive
    Depression
    Abdominal bloating
    Cold hands or feet
    Dry or thinning hair
    Joint or muscle pain
    Thickening of the skin
    Thin, brittle fingernails

    That being said, skeletal muscles are responsible for more than 25% of our calorie use so an increase in muscle tissues causes a corresponding increase in metabolic rate. I went back through Randy F's notes from UCLA and also found that 1 extra pound of muscle mass leads to an increase of 50 calories in metabolic rate per day while an increase of 1 fat pound causes a mere 2 calories of increase in metabolic rate per day.

    Couple of more factors to consider here. Have you done a recent body mass comp on the client either with skin calipers or the BIA method to determine if the client is indeed lowering her fat mass from your original measurements? Remember, muscle weighs more than fat so she could be increasing her muscle mass while total weight is remaining about the same.

    Have you done a total calorie count on her to see what amount of calories she needs per day to maintain her current body weight? I like to use the Katch-McArdle Formula as it accounts for basal metabolic rate. Link below:

    http://c.1asphost.com/health/

    I personally would go with an exercise presciption that emphasizes aerobic activity with this client if there are no muscular-skeletal disorders as ACSM recommends aerobic activity as the primary method for weight loss. All of this again assumes that the client's thyroid is working properly. Can't emphasize that enough.

    Once I got the calorie numbers on the client that would be needed to maintain her current weight, I would then use the ACSM walking or running formulas to check her calorie burn for each aerobic exercise session remembering that a 500 calories deficit or burn per day below the level needed to maintain current body weight will lose 1 pound of fat per week.

    This method should work to make sure that the client loses 1-2 pounds per week which is within the ACSM guidelines.

    Finally, the doctor's claim that, "The reason you're not losing weight is because your trainer is adding too much muscle," is nonsense. The main issue here is not increased muscle mass but rather how much calorie burn those muscles are generating per exercise session. Again, I would emphasize an aerobic regimen for weight loss and add resistance training on the off days for cardio workouts. If there are muscular-skeletal issues for the cient, I would have her do swimming or low impact activities.

    What do you think?

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    Hi Curt! How are you?

    Thanks for the info. Although I am ACSM certified, I disagree with some of their recommendations.

    My client has 2 strikes against her. She is an undereater AND she leads a sedentary life. The only time she does anything is when I am there. (And believe me, when I am there she is working hard.) These are most likely the 2 reasons why she is not losing weight. The doctor ran a battery of tests and everything is in normal range.

    My gripe is with her GP who suggested that since she is a woman she should lift light weights/high repetitions. Even she got a chuckle out of this!

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    Here is what Paul Chek has to say about doctors. If you don't know of Paul Chek, I am sure you won't forget him after this lecture.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZosVp0bR_4
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    LOL! I've seen this, John. Classic.

    I grew up in WV and I have a dear friend who is a doctor there. We have lots of discussions about how overweight the health professionals there are. A recent doctor of the year for the state was morbidly obese!!! Unbelievable.

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    Grrrrrrr! MUSCLETRAINER HATE DOCTORS WHO SAY THAT!

    MUSCLETRAINER SMASH!!!

    Ummm, doc, you may have missed this class in med school but women have 1/10th the muscle building testosterone that men have so it is incredibly difficult for them to stack on muscle mass as you are suggesting.

    Christina, don't fall for the lighter weights and higher repetitions for women bunk!

    That's what my beef was with the published author on PTONTHENET. He basically was saying the same thing! Women should only do reps in the 20 rep range..... AND HE'S PUBLISHED ON PTONTHENET!!! ARRRRGGHGH!!!1
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